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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;One of the Top Posts for past few days..
Their CONTROLLING BEHAVIOR is Public Enemy Number One&lt;/strong&gt;
  
I was also very sad to note as to how many evangelical, Christian  pastors, politicians falsely approve of drinking alcohol even though their real Christian colleagues preach against it..   Fundamental evangelical pastors preach it is a sin for any Christian to drink alcohol, Liberal Christians such as Catholics or Eastern Orthodox church say it is not. But one thing no one can deny is how harmful drinking alcohol is.. in Russia 60 percent of men and women die due to drinking alcohol.. how much hurt and damage does alcohol drinking cause in Canada? and how much money does it costs the taxpayers now too? Much too much too

For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? Why did this pastor? They can only face the negative reality from a distance… Not  the first time I do now meet such fundamental ostriches.. 
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/

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Their CONTROLLING BEHAVIOR is Public Enemy Number One</strong></p>
<p>I was also very sad to note as to how many evangelical, Christian  pastors, politicians falsely approve of drinking alcohol even though their real Christian colleagues preach against it..   Fundamental evangelical pastors preach it is a sin for any Christian to drink alcohol, Liberal Christians such as Catholics or Eastern Orthodox church say it is not. But one thing no one can deny is how harmful drinking alcohol is.. in Russia 60 percent of men and women die due to drinking alcohol.. how much hurt and damage does alcohol drinking cause in Canada? and how much money does it costs the taxpayers now too? Much too much too</p>
<p>For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? Why did this pastor? They can only face the negative reality from a distance… Not  the first time I do now meet such fundamental ostriches..<br />
<a href="http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/" rel="nofollow">http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/" rel="nofollow">http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/</a></p>
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		<description>The way I see it.. 
 
&lt;strong&gt;The federal and provincial conservatives are also all still mostly immoral persons, do  see my blog on why Stephen Harper hides his religion.. so also are many of  the Federal, provincial Liberals, and also the cops, RCMP, CRTC, it seems they are all corrupted,   crooked? for they all support mainly the Businessmen, corporations  who they hope can support them with bribes.. and sadly this is an undeniable reality..  &lt;/strong&gt;
http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2006/08/non-conformer.html
 
“Why Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper keeps his religion ...  
 
the  NDP and the   CBC for the present do try to support consumers, and their complaints but they have no real power too.
Complainers and whistle Blowers seem not be be liked anywhere.. Get used to it.

I STILL DO OFTEN LOUDLY, RIGHTFULLY COMPLAIN ABOUT BIG BAD CORPORATIONS, BAD GOVERNMENTS, BAD POLITICIANS, BAD MANAGERS, BAD CIVIL AN PUBLIC SERVANTS, BAD PROFESSIONALS TOO ANYWAY.

MANY PEOPLE DO INITIALLY TELL ME I AM WRONG IN MY EFFORTS, ATTEMPTS, AND THEY  ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO COME AND ASK ME NEXT FOR HELP WHEN THEY ARE ALSO ABUSED. I OFTEN NEXT  ASK WHY THEY COME IF THEY BEFORE WERE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT I DID. THEY OFTEN REPLY, CAUSE NO ONE CAN HELP THEM EFFECTIVELY. Do see the note below

The internet itself is the most powerful weapon, for the pen is mightier than the sword..   free sites such as http://www.wordpress.com   which is tied to the effective Google search engine..   http://www.blogger.com/ and  http://tripod.com/

FOR ONE EXAMPLE  this Complaint site  in 6 months it next got one million hits  http://jan.ake.andersson.tripod.com/ 
 
A good name is worth more than silver and gold, and a tarnished one cannot be accepted.. it is a clear loser and not a winner.
 
I learned long time ago important people do not like me, you embarrassing them in writing, posting their sins on the nets, for they send the police to my home 6 times now, a prime minister, a mayor, and a premier now too, and I next tell the police I want to contact the news media now about this and the police take off..
 
and they also threaten to sue me.. I tell them to go ahead I need the publicity..
 
they try to contact my employer but I am retired..
 
I like to write an email  letter of complaint  directly to a person, and also next send a copy to the news editors, politicians, but note  also to post the letter on the net and tell them all it is on the net.. even the last 2 decades, and from my experience that is the only thing that works effectively still.
   
Complaint #1
Servicing computers, providing technical support is not an easy business, even the so called experts often get it wrong.. 2 years problem with a brand new computer remained unsolved and why? the experts looked for complex problems.. and it next finally turned out to be a defective 15 dollars hard drive cable. 

Recently I had problems with my internet connection for a whole week, and I get different advice from the so called experts to last a life time too.. Trouble shooting problems with computers can be a complex undertaking caused by a very small unresolved problem even. A Bell technician finally after 2 years  showed up today at my home at 1:30 PM at Acanac&#039;s suggestion and he reduced my internet, modem speed from 10 megs to 5 megs.. because he thinks the Acanac modem is the problem, it does not want to accept the 10 meg causing the recent past internet connectivity problem.. Somehow I doubted it .. there also had to be other factors elsewhere? Everything works great so far, web page connectivity and Utorrent download, so how can I complain, and let&#039;s hope it lasts that way.. But I also suspect the peak line demands, capping, and line balance is part of the problem. The problem occassionally comes back. When it gets worse I will write even again to all.

Problems! These days 40 percent of Canadian Internet Customers are rightfully dissatisfied with the poor lies, support services from their internet suppliers, especially the biggest ones, such as Bell, Videotron, Rogers, . Why?

By law the internet is unregulated.. and these supposedly consumer protection agencies now still all they can do is a useless pretentious mediation approach and next it is useless because Bell plays dirty, hardball still.. court actions cannot be enforced. And any experienced lawyer will tell you, you need to first in writing personally to ask the specific bad people to repent first, to first give them a chance to do so, before you can next go public, and try to shame them into action, and still that is the sole approach than works.. for in reality the pretentious CRTC, Cops, consumer agencies do not really care about helping the small fries.. they only care about themselves. So I practice what I preach to you as well.. I put it in writing on the net too, it is an embarrassing approach but still the only one that works..
 
See also DEALING EFFECTIVELY with COMPUTER VIRUSES, Spyware, etc
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/dealing-effectively-with-computer-viruses/
  
Complaint #2
About Politics- Political, corruptions, inducements, Christians, Alcoholics
 
The supposed big news over the past decade by the liberals was  that several high profile Christian advocates are winning Conservative nominations across the country. The Globe &amp;  Mail had a rational analysis of the situation in an editorial. so what!
  
so too often even a professing Christian Canadian Prime Minister buys alcohol for others to elicit support. Will they also give out playboy too now?
 
Here is something I recently read in the newspapers news that was hilarious, even  on the net, an RCMP spin doctor, as quoted by  news reporter said  that the RCMP has only 3  court cases this year against alcoholic RCMP officers, and the rest of the RCMP officers are non alcoholic it seems, so they do not get tickets for drunk driving, for the RCMP officers they  sober all the time too?? That was really funny. In the real world 40 percent of the persons often take drugs and alcohol, but not in the cops world? Ha ha ha.. that is a funny joke. Rightfully unbelievable.
 
It is difficult to understand the media fuss about Christian activists helping to secure the nominations of at least eight Canadian federal Conservative candidates in the next election. It is  no less  difficult not to understand why no one opposes the election of Alcoholics, or the use of Alcohol to try to secure votes.. but they will oppose the election of Christian persons, It is not difficult to understand why some newspapers would splash a headline on the topic across their front page, thereby starting the entire insanity in the first place. 
 
First off, let’s look at the problem with the current system. By signing up a group of people to pack a nomination meeting, the chances of nominating a candidate who the party and constituents do not want is dramatically increased. 
 
With the current political nominating system it’s very easy to trade votes for money, booze, or favours, and it becomes about stacking meetings rather than being the “best” candidate. And  during the leadership race, we saw blatant restrictions of membership forms. If you didn’t support a certain candidate  ,it was impossible to get a membership form from the party, and when you were granted one, it would often take months to get it, or it would be mailed to the wrong address. Since it’s all about being on the membership list and it’s pretty easy to keep people off the membership list, abuse is practically encouraged. So why not switch to the primary system? Every Canadian could register with a party or as a non-partisan on their income tax by checking a box.  Sure, you could still truck in your church members to vote so long as they’re registered to the party in question but with many more eligible voters, it would become a lot harder to take over a riding or win a nomination. With a wider range of people voting, it would presumably allow for candidates the general population prefers to be nominated. It would also become impossible to restrict membership forms, leaving leadership races more wide open and democratic… considering the bad press all parties get through nasty nomination battles and leadership races, it would be a solution everyone would benefit from. Don’t forget a recall system too.
 
Now, here  the other laws On political abuse:
 
119. (1) Every one who(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a
member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, corruptly
(i) accepts or obtains,
(ii) agrees to accept, or
(iii) attempts to obtain,
any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment for himself or
another person in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted
by him in his official capacity, or
(b) gives or offers, corruptly, to a person mentioned in paragraph (a) any
money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of
anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by him in his official
capacity for himself or another person,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding fourteen years.
 
A charismatic leader is someone who really cares about the good welfare of all the people in Canada equally, French or English, easterner or westerner, or whatever, and not another pretender, Christian imposter, Alcoholic, liars, self centered, greedy persons that we seem to too often have instead..
 
so don’t be stupid NOW again,
and don’t select a Liberal leader who
- is a pretender Christian,
- a liar,
- an alcoholic,
- or one who cannot speak english, never mind read it.
but note above all it has to be one only from Quebec..
TRUDEAU’S SON Justine IS TOO YOUNG, and INEXPERIENCED STILL.
for without the support of the Quebec voters, without a PM from Quebec, you next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding out.. again and again!
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/politics-political-corruptions-inducements-christians-alcoholics/
 
http://thenonconformer.tripod.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it.. </p>
<p><strong>The federal and provincial conservatives are also all still mostly immoral persons, do  see my blog on why Stephen Harper hides his religion.. so also are many of  the Federal, provincial Liberals, and also the cops, RCMP, CRTC, it seems they are all corrupted,   crooked? for they all support mainly the Businessmen, corporations  who they hope can support them with bribes.. and sadly this is an undeniable reality..  </strong><br />
<a href="http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2006/08/non-conformer.html" rel="nofollow">http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2006/08/non-conformer.html</a></p>
<p>“Why Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper keeps his religion &#8230;  </p>
<p>the  NDP and the   CBC for the present do try to support consumers, and their complaints but they have no real power too.<br />
Complainers and whistle Blowers seem not be be liked anywhere.. Get used to it.</p>
<p>I STILL DO OFTEN LOUDLY, RIGHTFULLY COMPLAIN ABOUT BIG BAD CORPORATIONS, BAD GOVERNMENTS, BAD POLITICIANS, BAD MANAGERS, BAD CIVIL AN PUBLIC SERVANTS, BAD PROFESSIONALS TOO ANYWAY.</p>
<p>MANY PEOPLE DO INITIALLY TELL ME I AM WRONG IN MY EFFORTS, ATTEMPTS, AND THEY  ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO COME AND ASK ME NEXT FOR HELP WHEN THEY ARE ALSO ABUSED. I OFTEN NEXT  ASK WHY THEY COME IF THEY BEFORE WERE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT I DID. THEY OFTEN REPLY, CAUSE NO ONE CAN HELP THEM EFFECTIVELY. Do see the note below</p>
<p>The internet itself is the most powerful weapon, for the pen is mightier than the sword..   free sites such as <a href="http://www.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wordpress.com</a>   which is tied to the effective Google search engine..   <a href="http://www.blogger.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogger.com/</a> and  <a href="http://tripod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tripod.com/</a></p>
<p>FOR ONE EXAMPLE  this Complaint site  in 6 months it next got one million hits  <a href="http://jan.ake.andersson.tripod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jan.ake.andersson.tripod.com/</a> </p>
<p>A good name is worth more than silver and gold, and a tarnished one cannot be accepted.. it is a clear loser and not a winner.</p>
<p>I learned long time ago important people do not like me, you embarrassing them in writing, posting their sins on the nets, for they send the police to my home 6 times now, a prime minister, a mayor, and a premier now too, and I next tell the police I want to contact the news media now about this and the police take off..</p>
<p>and they also threaten to sue me.. I tell them to go ahead I need the publicity..</p>
<p>they try to contact my employer but I am retired..</p>
<p>I like to write an email  letter of complaint  directly to a person, and also next send a copy to the news editors, politicians, but note  also to post the letter on the net and tell them all it is on the net.. even the last 2 decades, and from my experience that is the only thing that works effectively still.</p>
<p>Complaint #1<br />
Servicing computers, providing technical support is not an easy business, even the so called experts often get it wrong.. 2 years problem with a brand new computer remained unsolved and why? the experts looked for complex problems.. and it next finally turned out to be a defective 15 dollars hard drive cable. </p>
<p>Recently I had problems with my internet connection for a whole week, and I get different advice from the so called experts to last a life time too.. Trouble shooting problems with computers can be a complex undertaking caused by a very small unresolved problem even. A Bell technician finally after 2 years  showed up today at my home at 1:30 PM at Acanac&#8217;s suggestion and he reduced my internet, modem speed from 10 megs to 5 megs.. because he thinks the Acanac modem is the problem, it does not want to accept the 10 meg causing the recent past internet connectivity problem.. Somehow I doubted it .. there also had to be other factors elsewhere? Everything works great so far, web page connectivity and Utorrent download, so how can I complain, and let&#8217;s hope it lasts that way.. But I also suspect the peak line demands, capping, and line balance is part of the problem. The problem occassionally comes back. When it gets worse I will write even again to all.</p>
<p>Problems! These days 40 percent of Canadian Internet Customers are rightfully dissatisfied with the poor lies, support services from their internet suppliers, especially the biggest ones, such as Bell, Videotron, Rogers, . Why?</p>
<p>By law the internet is unregulated.. and these supposedly consumer protection agencies now still all they can do is a useless pretentious mediation approach and next it is useless because Bell plays dirty, hardball still.. court actions cannot be enforced. And any experienced lawyer will tell you, you need to first in writing personally to ask the specific bad people to repent first, to first give them a chance to do so, before you can next go public, and try to shame them into action, and still that is the sole approach than works.. for in reality the pretentious CRTC, Cops, consumer agencies do not really care about helping the small fries.. they only care about themselves. So I practice what I preach to you as well.. I put it in writing on the net too, it is an embarrassing approach but still the only one that works..</p>
<p>See also DEALING EFFECTIVELY with COMPUTER VIRUSES, Spyware, etc<br />
<a href="http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/dealing-effectively-with-computer-viruses/" rel="nofollow">http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/dealing-effectively-with-computer-viruses/</a></p>
<p>Complaint #2<br />
About Politics- Political, corruptions, inducements, Christians, Alcoholics</p>
<p>The supposed big news over the past decade by the liberals was  that several high profile Christian advocates are winning Conservative nominations across the country. The Globe &amp;  Mail had a rational analysis of the situation in an editorial. so what!</p>
<p>so too often even a professing Christian Canadian Prime Minister buys alcohol for others to elicit support. Will they also give out playboy too now?</p>
<p>Here is something I recently read in the newspapers news that was hilarious, even  on the net, an RCMP spin doctor, as quoted by  news reporter said  that the RCMP has only 3  court cases this year against alcoholic RCMP officers, and the rest of the RCMP officers are non alcoholic it seems, so they do not get tickets for drunk driving, for the RCMP officers they  sober all the time too?? That was really funny. In the real world 40 percent of the persons often take drugs and alcohol, but not in the cops world? Ha ha ha.. that is a funny joke. Rightfully unbelievable.</p>
<p>It is difficult to understand the media fuss about Christian activists helping to secure the nominations of at least eight Canadian federal Conservative candidates in the next election. It is  no less  difficult not to understand why no one opposes the election of Alcoholics, or the use of Alcohol to try to secure votes.. but they will oppose the election of Christian persons, It is not difficult to understand why some newspapers would splash a headline on the topic across their front page, thereby starting the entire insanity in the first place. </p>
<p>First off, let’s look at the problem with the current system. By signing up a group of people to pack a nomination meeting, the chances of nominating a candidate who the party and constituents do not want is dramatically increased. </p>
<p>With the current political nominating system it’s very easy to trade votes for money, booze, or favours, and it becomes about stacking meetings rather than being the “best” candidate. And  during the leadership race, we saw blatant restrictions of membership forms. If you didn’t support a certain candidate  ,it was impossible to get a membership form from the party, and when you were granted one, it would often take months to get it, or it would be mailed to the wrong address. Since it’s all about being on the membership list and it’s pretty easy to keep people off the membership list, abuse is practically encouraged. So why not switch to the primary system? Every Canadian could register with a party or as a non-partisan on their income tax by checking a box.  Sure, you could still truck in your church members to vote so long as they’re registered to the party in question but with many more eligible voters, it would become a lot harder to take over a riding or win a nomination. With a wider range of people voting, it would presumably allow for candidates the general population prefers to be nominated. It would also become impossible to restrict membership forms, leaving leadership races more wide open and democratic… considering the bad press all parties get through nasty nomination battles and leadership races, it would be a solution everyone would benefit from. Don’t forget a recall system too.</p>
<p>Now, here  the other laws On political abuse:</p>
<p>119. (1) Every one who(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a<br />
member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, corruptly<br />
(i) accepts or obtains,<br />
(ii) agrees to accept, or<br />
(iii) attempts to obtain,<br />
any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment for himself or<br />
another person in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted<br />
by him in his official capacity, or<br />
(b) gives or offers, corruptly, to a person mentioned in paragraph (a) any<br />
money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of<br />
anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by him in his official<br />
capacity for himself or another person,<br />
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not<br />
exceeding fourteen years.</p>
<p>A charismatic leader is someone who really cares about the good welfare of all the people in Canada equally, French or English, easterner or westerner, or whatever, and not another pretender, Christian imposter, Alcoholic, liars, self centered, greedy persons that we seem to too often have instead..</p>
<p>so don’t be stupid NOW again,<br />
and don’t select a Liberal leader who<br />
- is a pretender Christian,<br />
- a liar,<br />
- an alcoholic,<br />
- or one who cannot speak english, never mind read it.<br />
but note above all it has to be one only from Quebec..<br />
TRUDEAU’S SON Justine IS TOO YOUNG, and INEXPERIENCED STILL.<br />
for without the support of the Quebec voters, without a PM from Quebec, you next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding out.. again and again!<br />
<a href="http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/politics-political-corruptions-inducements-christians-alcoholics/" rel="nofollow">http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/politics-political-corruptions-inducements-christians-alcoholics/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thenonconformer.tripod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thenonconformer.tripod.com/</a></p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;It has been very interesting to me that some of the biggest alcoholics and false proponents of ALCOHOL now are Ministers themselves.. and what else do they do? tax evasions, adultery, divorce, slander, gossip, no wonder in my own real personal experiences the last 5 decades too that 70 percent of the pastors are ungodly, immoral still and undeniably very very few people respect them anymore for what they do and say.&lt;/strong&gt;

It is often also non surprising to me that people who are closed to be led by the Holy spirit, to Pentecostalism, tongues would prefer the demonic spirit of drunkenness.

No other issue tends to divide the church and evoke as much deep seated emotion as the question of alcohol, but only for the alcoholics now too, for in general, is itself a false statement.. for clearly the issue of gay marriages, but note esepcially speaking in tongues, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and Healing, gifts of the Holy spirit, impartation, cause more discussions and oppositions too, as the Anglican Church splits, and as the latests net exposes about the Todd Bentley Florida revival has clearly shown

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/the-witchhunt-against-the-pentecostals-backfired/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/the-nomination-of-republican-vice-president-sarah-plain-has-certainly-sparked-interest/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/religious-topics-of-interest/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/disturbing-trend-sensationalized-religious-postings-bashings/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/what-is-the-general-christian-sentiment-towards-pentecostalism/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-d
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/betrayers-of-jesus-christ/
http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It has been very interesting to me that some of the biggest alcoholics and false proponents of ALCOHOL now are Ministers themselves.. and what else do they do? tax evasions, adultery, divorce, slander, gossip, no wonder in my own real personal experiences the last 5 decades too that 70 percent of the pastors are ungodly, immoral still and undeniably very very few people respect them anymore for what they do and say.</strong></p>
<p>It is often also non surprising to me that people who are closed to be led by the Holy spirit, to Pentecostalism, tongues would prefer the demonic spirit of drunkenness.</p>
<p>No other issue tends to divide the church and evoke as much deep seated emotion as the question of alcohol, but only for the alcoholics now too, for in general, is itself a false statement.. for clearly the issue of gay marriages, but note esepcially speaking in tongues, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and Healing, gifts of the Holy spirit, impartation, cause more discussions and oppositions too, as the Anglican Church splits, and as the latests net exposes about the Todd Bentley Florida revival has clearly shown</p>
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		<description>  Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick    persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick    persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..</p>
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		<description>i was specifically praying now as to What Kind of Christian is Obama? when the news came on the TV and there he was in color at an alcoholic bar drinking alcoholic BEVERAGES WITH THE OTHER FOLKS THERE.. NOT AT ALL A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SELF CONTROL FOR A LEADER NOW.. in light that alcohol leads more people to get arrested for violence, drunk driving, spousal abuse than almost any other fact now too. I am sure a real Christian like Sarah PALIN is an abstainer and RIGHTFULLY does not give alcohol or pornography to her friends, associates..

The use of alcohol in moderation in social or private settings has many defenders, but no defense. Remember Paul’s admonition to Timothy, “Be not a partaker in other men’s sins, keep thy self pure” (1 Tim 5:22).

http://www.housetohouse.com/hth/biblequestions/archive/question0029
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was specifically praying now as to What Kind of Christian is Obama? when the news came on the TV and there he was in color at an alcoholic bar drinking alcoholic BEVERAGES WITH THE OTHER FOLKS THERE.. NOT AT ALL A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SELF CONTROL FOR A LEADER NOW.. in light that alcohol leads more people to get arrested for violence, drunk driving, spousal abuse than almost any other fact now too. I am sure a real Christian like Sarah PALIN is an abstainer and RIGHTFULLY does not give alcohol or pornography to her friends, associates..</p>
<p>The use of alcohol in moderation in social or private settings has many defenders, but no defense. Remember Paul’s admonition to Timothy, “Be not a partaker in other men’s sins, keep thy self pure” (1 Tim 5:22).</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I have often thought about the reality that the majority of persons had never claimed to be saved, healed, delivered, from reading a telephone book or even books by some of the world&#039;s greatest, the most known authors writers. And yet there have been millions of persons whose life have been definitely changed, personally altered, for the good, lives transformed, whose sins have been forgiven cause they read the Bible and applied it. Even Alcoholic anonymous and their 12 step program admit that God alone forgives the sins of  alcoholics, and transformers the person next too, if they admit their sin and humbly ask God to do so too. Beware though - most bad persons, drug addicts and alcoholic ones included they   employ false denial techniques that build more walls between them and others&lt;/strong&gt;
 
And in truth the only people I have ever seen who manifested any  lasting, real changes were these people changed by God, who had next became born again, and to be fully truthful here too next half of them even got worse again next, a dog who returned to their vomit, they denied next the DENIED THE SAME FAITH THEY BELIEVED IN TOO.
  
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous rightfully says that only God can next heal, relieve the sin, the illness of addiction. It requires the addictive person to first confess they have sinned and next ask for God&#039;s forgiveness, help.  
 
Too many a persons also do falsely deny who they really are, hiding behind prestigious or pretentious facade that they are unknown, cannot be discerned, read, known cause they are too complex.. you can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all of the people all of the time..
 
The fastest way to change is by praying, even by the prayers of others, reading the Bible as well..
  
Jesus himself said a person can be known simply by what they do. good people do good things.. and bad people tend to do bad things.  
 
(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 
(Mat 7:19 KJV)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
 
(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 
(Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
 
(Mat 7:22 KJV)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
 
(Mat 7:23 KJV)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
(Mat 7:24 KJV)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
 
(Mat 7:25 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
 
(Mat 7:26 KJV)  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
 
(Mat 7:27 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.       
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,    

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.        
 
People to make money even these days tell all kind of lies ...  Today many Children are also being falsely led to  believe that Gambling, Alcohol and Bad drug use is generally  safe. The average 18 year old has seen 100,000 television commercials encouraging him or her to drink. That&#039;s why 80% of high school seniors have tried alcohol, 32% have gotten drunk in the last thirty days, 43% smoke marijuana, and about one third are smoking cigarettes. Most addicts die of their addiction and they take their family members down with them. The first step in any help program recovery is to get honest with yourself. Get honest even as to what the other person is really like.. Do not let them take you down the drain with them next too.. 
 
We all must take any personal addiction seriously because 25% of North Americans die as a result of substance abuse. The average alcoholic dies twenty-six years earlier than he or she would otherwise. Drug users, alcoholics, cheaters, abusers, adulterers affect negatively continually too the lives of at least six others
 
Being nice. kind, friendly  to a really bad person  is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see   no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate Responses -including how we should behave in the relationship with the  sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser.. 
  
Can a Person change themselves?  Is there hope for anyone? Only if they follow God&#039;s rules!! Accepting Jesus!  and we all should look at the calendar.. 2008 ad.. 2008 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ… so undeniably of an event it even changed the calendar history too.
 
Trying to help an abuser? Establish clear, simple to follow Boundaries, Set Limits, Set detachment.  One example of setting a boundary is telling a close friend, a loved one  that you prefer they not be around you if they are smoking,  drunk or high. Notice that it is specific demand, and you have to sit down and communicate this type of request explicitly with that someone. Setting a boundary like this is difficult because there is this tendency to hurt other&#039;s feelings. But that is part of what is keeping you ineffective- your caring more about this person&#039;s feelings than your own personal well being. Setting boundaries is about putting your own personal well being and even that of others first, and letting that be a guiding example of how to live. You know you are setting effective boundaries when you are taking back control of your own life firstly and starting to regain your own sanity-instead of being all wrapped up in the problems of a struggling smoker, rebel, drug addict or alcoholic.
 
&quot;Here are some things that you can do in order to practice detachment with the struggling pervert in your life:
-Don&#039;t do things that they should be doing themselves.
-Don&#039;t bend over backwards to rescue them or save them from natural consequences.
-Don&#039;t cover up for their mistakes or embarrassing situations.
-Don&#039;t rescue them from crisis or financial situations.
-Don&#039;t try to fix them.
-Let go of any guilt you may have about them

Detachment is not about denying your emotions. If someone close to you dies, for example, you will probably feel sad. You can&#039;t choose this feeling. It simply is. But we do have the power to affect the intensity of this feeling, by focusing on the positive aspects of the situation. We can also change our thinking in an attempt to eradicate irrational beliefs that might be contributing to our emotional turmoil.

The goal is not to go without emotions, the goal is to achieve some level of emotional stability. We are detaching from the negative, irrational thoughts that stir up our emotions-like the guilt we might have if we think someone&#039;s perversity, addiction is our fault.

Detachment is difficult and takes practice  but it helps the whole works..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I have often thought about the reality that the majority of persons had never claimed to be saved, healed, delivered, from reading a telephone book or even books by some of the world&#8217;s greatest, the most known authors writers. And yet there have been millions of persons whose life have been definitely changed, personally altered, for the good, lives transformed, whose sins have been forgiven cause they read the Bible and applied it. Even Alcoholic anonymous and their 12 step program admit that God alone forgives the sins of  alcoholics, and transformers the person next too, if they admit their sin and humbly ask God to do so too. Beware though &#8211; most bad persons, drug addicts and alcoholic ones included they   employ false denial techniques that build more walls between them and others</strong></p>
<p>And in truth the only people I have ever seen who manifested any  lasting, real changes were these people changed by God, who had next became born again, and to be fully truthful here too next half of them even got worse again next, a dog who returned to their vomit, they denied next the DENIED THE SAME FAITH THEY BELIEVED IN TOO.</p>
<p>The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous rightfully says that only God can next heal, relieve the sin, the illness of addiction. It requires the addictive person to first confess they have sinned and next ask for God&#8217;s forgiveness, help.  </p>
<p>Too many a persons also do falsely deny who they really are, hiding behind prestigious or pretentious facade that they are unknown, cannot be discerned, read, known cause they are too complex.. you can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all of the people all of the time..</p>
<p>The fastest way to change is by praying, even by the prayers of others, reading the Bible as well..</p>
<p>Jesus himself said a person can be known simply by what they do. good people do good things.. and bad people tend to do bad things.  </p>
<p>(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.</p>
<p>(Mat 7:19 KJV)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.</p>
<p>(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.</p>
<p>(Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.</p>
<p>(Mat 7:22 KJV)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?</p>
<p>(Mat 7:23 KJV)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.</p>
<p>(Mat 7:24 KJV)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:</p>
<p>(Mat 7:25 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.</p>
<p>(Mat 7:26 KJV)  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:</p>
<p>(Mat 7:27 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.       </p>
<p>Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,    </p>
<p>Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.        </p>
<p>People to make money even these days tell all kind of lies &#8230;  Today many Children are also being falsely led to  believe that Gambling, Alcohol and Bad drug use is generally  safe. The average 18 year old has seen 100,000 television commercials encouraging him or her to drink. That&#8217;s why 80% of high school seniors have tried alcohol, 32% have gotten drunk in the last thirty days, 43% smoke marijuana, and about one third are smoking cigarettes. Most addicts die of their addiction and they take their family members down with them. The first step in any help program recovery is to get honest with yourself. Get honest even as to what the other person is really like.. Do not let them take you down the drain with them next too.. </p>
<p>We all must take any personal addiction seriously because 25% of North Americans die as a result of substance abuse. The average alcoholic dies twenty-six years earlier than he or she would otherwise. Drug users, alcoholics, cheaters, abusers, adulterers affect negatively continually too the lives of at least six others</p>
<p>Being nice. kind, friendly  to a really bad person  is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see   no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate Responses -including how we should behave in the relationship with the  sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser.. </p>
<p>Can a Person change themselves?  Is there hope for anyone? Only if they follow God&#8217;s rules!! Accepting Jesus!  and we all should look at the calendar.. 2008 ad.. 2008 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ… so undeniably of an event it even changed the calendar history too.</p>
<p>Trying to help an abuser? Establish clear, simple to follow Boundaries, Set Limits, Set detachment.  One example of setting a boundary is telling a close friend, a loved one  that you prefer they not be around you if they are smoking,  drunk or high. Notice that it is specific demand, and you have to sit down and communicate this type of request explicitly with that someone. Setting a boundary like this is difficult because there is this tendency to hurt other&#8217;s feelings. But that is part of what is keeping you ineffective- your caring more about this person&#8217;s feelings than your own personal well being. Setting boundaries is about putting your own personal well being and even that of others first, and letting that be a guiding example of how to live. You know you are setting effective boundaries when you are taking back control of your own life firstly and starting to regain your own sanity-instead of being all wrapped up in the problems of a struggling smoker, rebel, drug addict or alcoholic.</p>
<p>&#8220;Here are some things that you can do in order to practice detachment with the struggling pervert in your life:<br />
-Don&#8217;t do things that they should be doing themselves.<br />
-Don&#8217;t bend over backwards to rescue them or save them from natural consequences.<br />
-Don&#8217;t cover up for their mistakes or embarrassing situations.<br />
-Don&#8217;t rescue them from crisis or financial situations.<br />
-Don&#8217;t try to fix them.<br />
-Let go of any guilt you may have about them</p>
<p>Detachment is not about denying your emotions. If someone close to you dies, for example, you will probably feel sad. You can&#8217;t choose this feeling. It simply is. But we do have the power to affect the intensity of this feeling, by focusing on the positive aspects of the situation. We can also change our thinking in an attempt to eradicate irrational beliefs that might be contributing to our emotional turmoil.</p>
<p>The goal is not to go without emotions, the goal is to achieve some level of emotional stability. We are detaching from the negative, irrational thoughts that stir up our emotions-like the guilt we might have if we think someone&#8217;s perversity, addiction is our fault.</p>
<p>Detachment is difficult and takes practice  but it helps the whole works..</p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Don&#039;t get the false impression that a person finds it hard to even give up alcohol, lying, adultery, smoking, sweraring, stealing, slander, gossp, etc... they find it hard to give up any sin generally and in reality, in truth unless God himself does answers your prayers and helps you it is very difficult still to give up sin..&lt;/strong&gt;

to: http://spiritualbattleground.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/called-to-be-saints/#comment-109

Mr Spurgeon should have practise what he preached firstly for he could not give up his sin of smoking a cigar even. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/

other pastors did not and could not give up alcohol, drunkenness, adultery, cheating, lying stealing,, and what else?

Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices.
 
Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Why are alcoholics always in denial? and why do they often lie,  cheat, steal also now? Because if they do admit the truth they are alcoholics, sinners too  they do have now to repent of the sin of disobeying God’s word about being drunk too.. so they take the ostrich denial approach instead too often. Alcoholism still is a sin of a deliberate, personal choice, and to be set free you have to admit your sin, confess it, renounce it, ask God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ as well.. It is not only wrong for the average person it is also especially wrong for leaders in the government, politicians. It is amazing how one can quickly spot an alcoholic, while they cannot still see their sin, and how quick they are to oppose themselves being exposed now too..
 
I admit I had lost all respect for the supposedly great preacher Spurgeon who was so ready to preach to others about their sins, but he himself now could not resist  the Temptation of a cigar.  Similar we find out that other preachers could not give up smoking too.. Look at this reference in regard to AB Simpson, the past founder of the Christian Missionary Alliance denomination now too.  “The Man, the movement, and the mission-A documentary of the C&amp;MA”  Cut directly from their national web site. It was the custom for the ministers of the district to meet together to discuss all things common. This little reunion, in its proper sequence, was held one day at the Manse. And unaccountably strange odor of tobacco smoke began to steal upstairs. Suddenly the study door flew open and a towering figure of fury - all of four feet, one inch in its stocking feet - stood at the threshold. “SMOKING! Out of this house!” said Grannie Simpson, and in a body the ministerial association moved.  https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15796002&amp;postID=3424830162204895882   http://reversion-clause.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Don&#8217;t get the false impression that a person finds it hard to even give up alcohol, lying, adultery, smoking, sweraring, stealing, slander, gossp, etc&#8230; they find it hard to give up any sin generally and in reality, in truth unless God himself does answers your prayers and helps you it is very difficult still to give up sin..</strong></p>
<p>to: <a href="http://spiritualbattleground.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/called-to-be-saints/#comment-109" rel="nofollow">http://spiritualbattleground.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/called-to-be-saints/#comment-109</a></p>
<p>Mr Spurgeon should have practise what he preached firstly for he could not give up his sin of smoking a cigar even. <a href="http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>other pastors did not and could not give up alcohol, drunkenness, adultery, cheating, lying stealing,, and what else?</p>
<p>Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices.</p>
<p>Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Why are alcoholics always in denial? and why do they often lie,  cheat, steal also now? Because if they do admit the truth they are alcoholics, sinners too  they do have now to repent of the sin of disobeying God’s word about being drunk too.. so they take the ostrich denial approach instead too often. Alcoholism still is a sin of a deliberate, personal choice, and to be set free you have to admit your sin, confess it, renounce it, ask God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ as well.. It is not only wrong for the average person it is also especially wrong for leaders in the government, politicians. It is amazing how one can quickly spot an alcoholic, while they cannot still see their sin, and how quick they are to oppose themselves being exposed now too..</p>
<p>I admit I had lost all respect for the supposedly great preacher Spurgeon who was so ready to preach to others about their sins, but he himself now could not resist  the Temptation of a cigar.  Similar we find out that other preachers could not give up smoking too.. Look at this reference in regard to AB Simpson, the past founder of the Christian Missionary Alliance denomination now too.  “The Man, the movement, and the mission-A documentary of the C&amp;MA”  Cut directly from their national web site. It was the custom for the ministers of the district to meet together to discuss all things common. This little reunion, in its proper sequence, was held one day at the Manse. And unaccountably strange odor of tobacco smoke began to steal upstairs. Suddenly the study door flew open and a towering figure of fury &#8211; all of four feet, one inch in its stocking feet &#8211; stood at the threshold. “SMOKING! Out of this house!” said Grannie Simpson, and in a body the ministerial association moved.  <a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15796002&amp;postID=3424830162204895882" rel="nofollow">https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15796002&amp;postID=3424830162204895882</a>   <a href="http://reversion-clause.com/" rel="nofollow">http://reversion-clause.com/</a></p>
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